Subtlety Rogue
Melee DPS
Hemorrhage, Preparation and Thousand Cuts: the opener rogue.
Verified 2026-10-01
Build 1.60.1.70124
Hemorrhage uptime (10/0/41)
ProjectionTheorySame opener spine, with Cutthroat maxed so Backstab can enable a second Ambush without stealth, and Setup so a dodge or a resist gives a combo point. This is the dungeon Subtlety build if you refuse to respec Combat.
10 / 0 / 41 (51 points)
Assassination
10 pts
Improved GougeRank 0/3Increases the duration of your Gouge ability by 0.5 sec.
Remorseless AttacksRank 0/2After killing a non-trivial enemy, gives you a 20% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Mutilate, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 sec.
5/5MaliceRank 5/5Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks and Poisons by 5%.
3/3RuthlessnessRank 3/3Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a Combo Point to your target.
2/2MurderRank 2/2Increases all damage dealt by 4% against Humanoid and Giant targets.
Improved Slice and DiceRank 0/3Increases the duration of your Slice and Dice ability by 15%.
Relentless StrikesRank 0/1Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per Combo Point to restore 25 Energy.
Improved Expose ArmorRank 0/2Reduces the Energy cost of your Expose Armor ability by 5, and refunds 1 Combo Point when cast with 5 Combo Points.
LethalityRank 0/5Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Mutilate, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities by 4%.Requires Malice
Vile PoisonsRank 0/5Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 4% and gives your poisons an additional 8% chance to resist dispel effects.
Cold BloodRank 0/1When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Eviscerate, or Mutilate by 100%.
Improved PoisonsRank 0/5Increases the chance to apply Poisons to your target by 2%, and gives Poison applications a 10% chance to not consume a charge.
VigorRank 0/2Increases your maximum Energy by 5.
MutilateRank 0/1Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 13 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.
Improved Kidney ShotRank 0/2Enemies Stunned by your Kidney Shot ability take 5% increased damage from your poisons and attacks.
Seal FateRank 0/5Your critical strikes from abilities that add Combo Points have a 20% chance to add an additional Combo Point.
VenomRank 0/1Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point:
1 point : 9 seconds
2 points: 12 seconds
3 points: 15 seconds
4 points: 18 seconds
5 points: 21 secondsRequires Mutilate
Combat
0 ptsImproved EviscerateRank 0/3Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 7%.
Improved Sinister StrikeRank 0/2Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 3.
Lightning ReflexesRank 0/5Increases your Dodge chance by 1%.
Puncturing WoundsRank 0/3Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab by 10% and your Mutilate by 5%, and gives Backstab a 15% chance to add an additional Combo Point.
DeflectionRank 0/3Increases your Parry chance by 2%.
PrecisionRank 0/3Improves your chance to hit by 1%.
EnduranceRank 0/2Reduces the cooldown of your Sprint and Evasion abilities by 30%.
RiposteRank 0/1A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 sec.Requires Deflection
Improved SprintRank 0/2Gives a 50% chance to remove all movement impairing effects when you activate your Sprint ability.
Improved KickRank 0/2Gives your Kick ability a 50% chance to Silence the target for 2 sec.
Flawless ExecutionRank 0/1Reduces the Energy cost of your Eviscerate ability by 10.
Dual Wield SpecializationRank 0/5Increases the damage done by your off-hand weapon by 5%.Requires Precision
Blade FlurryRank 0/1Increases your melee attack speed by 20% and your melee attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 sec.
Hack and SlashRank 0/5Gives your melee weapon attacks a benefit depending on the weapon.
Axe/Sword: Your successful
melee attacks have a 1% chance
to trigger an extra attack on the
target.
Dagger/Fist: Increases your
critical strike chance by 1%.
Mace: Your attacks ignore 3% of
your target's armor.
Weapon ExpertiseRank 0/2Reduces the chance for your attacks to be Dodged or Parried by 1%.Requires Blade Flurry
AggressionRank 0/3Increases the damage of your Sinister Strike, Backstab, and Eviscerate abilities by 2%.
Adrenaline RushRank 0/1Increases your Energy regeneration rate by 100% for 15 sec.
Subtlety
41 pts2/5CamouflageRank 2/5Reduces your speed penalty from your Stealth ability by 6% and reduces its cooldown by 3 sec.
2/3Master of DeceptionRank 2/3Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 2 levels higher.
2/2OpportunityRank 2/2Increases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Garrote, Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by 10%.
3/3SetupRank 3/3Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging an attack or fully resisting a spell.
2/2ElusivenessRank 2/2Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 90 sec.
2/2Dirty TricksRank 2/2Reduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 50%.
3/3Improved AmbushRank 3/3Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 45%.
3/3InitiativeRank 3/3Gives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.
1/1Ghostly StrikeRank 1/1A strike that deals 125% (180% if a Dagger is equipped in your Main Hand) weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 sec. Awards 1 combo point.
Improved DistractRank 0/2Increases the radius of your Distract ability by 3 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 1 level lower.
2/2Heightened SensesRank 2/2Increases your Stealth detection as if you were 3 levels higher and reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 4%.
1/1PremeditationRank 1/1Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.
3/3Serrated BladesRank 3/3Causes your attacks to ignore 9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 30%.
2/2Dirty DeedsRank 2/2Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 20, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target.
1/1PreparationRank 1/1When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.
1/1HemorrhageRank 1/1An instant strike that deals 100% weapon damage (145% if a Dagger is equipped) and causes the target to take 15% increased Rupture damage from the Rogue. Lasts 15 sec. Awards 1 Combo Point.Requires Serrated Blades
5/5QuietusRank 5/5Your Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 10% more damage against targets below 35% health.Requires Dirty Deeds
5/5CutthroatRank 5/5Your Backstab has a 15% chance to cause your next Ambush within 10 sec to not require Stealth.
1/1Thousand CutsRank 1/1When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.Requires Preparation
Stat priority
- Hit
- Agility
- Crit
- Attack Power
- Stamina
Serrated Blades already ignores 9% armor. More Attack Power still beats stacking a stat the tree does not multiply.
Best race
Alliance
Night Elf
Runner-up: HumanElune’s Light is 10% crit for 15 seconds and lines up with a Premeditation opener. The stealth detection reduction is a bonus on trash you skip.
- ShadowmeldInstant, 10 sec cooldown. Activate to slip into the shadows, reducing the chance for enemies to detect your presence. Lasts until cancelled or upon moving. Using this ability in combat discourages enemies from attacking you, but increases the cooldown to 2 min.
QuicknessDodge chance increased by 1% and movement speed increased by 2%. Night Elf Rogues and Druids are harder to detect in Stealth as if they were 1 level higher.
Wisp SpiritTransform into a wisp upon death, increasing movement speed by 75%.
Elune's LightInstant, 3 min cooldown. Increases your critical strike chance with all spells and attacks by 10% for 15 sec.
Horde
Orc
Runner-up: TrollBlood Fury is the damage cooldown this tree does not have. Adrenaline Rush is Combat. Orc brings the missing button.
Blood FuryInstant, 2 min cooldown. Increases Attack Power and Spell Power by 10% for 15 sec.
HardinessDuration of Stun effects on you reduced by 20%.
Axe SpecializationIncreases your critical strike chance with all spells and abilities by 1% while you have an axe or a two-handed axe equipped.
Shatter CurseInstant, 3 min cooldown. Instantly removes and grants immunity to all Curses and Banes, and reduces all Magical damage taken by 15% for 8 sec.
Enchants
| Slot | Enchant | Evidence |
|---|---|---|
| Hands | Enchant Gloves - Superior StrengthName seen on a BlizzCon demo enchanting vendor; the amount is not published. | Datamined |
| Neck | Enchant Necklace - StrengthNeck enchants are new to Forever. Name only, amount not published. | Datamined |
| Back | Enchant Cloak - AgilityName only, amount not published. | Datamined |
| Wrist | Enchant Bracer - Superior DeflectionName only, amount not published. | Datamined |
How to play it
- Ambush, Hemorrhage, Rupture, then Hemorrhage cheaper from Thousand Cuts. Eviscerate only to finish.
- Cutthroat’s Backstab proc lets the next Ambush skip stealth. Use it. Do not wait for a vanish on trash.
- Preparation on bosses to get a second Vanish if the mechanic drops you in the fire, not to pad damage.
- You will lose to Combat on a four-mob pull. Blade Flurry is not in this tree. Say so.
- Kick still exists. Subtlety does not talent it. Press it anyway.
Verdict
Subtlety is the opener. Premeditation adds 2 combo points from stealth. Hemorrhage is the builder that also makes the target take 15% more Rupture damage, and it hits harder with a dagger. Preparation resets your other cooldowns. Thousand Cuts, the capstone, makes Rupture ticks cheapen the next Hemorrhage or Backstab, stacking to 5.
Dirty Deeds cuts Cheap Shot and Garrote by 20 energy and lets Garrote land from the front. That is the battleground change. You no longer lose the opener because the flag carrier turned around.
wowforever.co puts Subtlety at B on MMOExp and Overgear and at C on the forum list. Icy Veins’ Assassination page is clear that low-level Rogue specs feel the same. Subtlety pulls ahead when Preparation and Hemorrhage exist, which is not level 20. The 51-point builds are projections.
Play Subtlety to open, control and reset. Play Combat if the fight never lets you restealth. Do not bring Subtlety as the raid DPS plan until someone parses it.
Strengths
- Preparation finishes the cooldown on your other abilities. A second Cheap Shot, a second Vanish, a second Blind.
- Hemorrhage plus Serrated Blades ignores 9% armor and adds 30% Rupture damage before the debuff even applies.
- Elusiveness cuts Vanish and Blind by 90 seconds. That is the reset spec.
- Master of Deception and Heightened Senses are stealth offense and stealth detection in the same tree.
Weaknesses
- If you cannot restealth, you are a worse Combat rogue. Ghostly Strike does not replace Blade Flurry.
- Thousand Cuts wants Rupture rolling. A target that dies in a stun never pays for the capstone.
- Public lists do not put Subtlety in S. The forum list has it at C.
- Early levels lack Sap and Blind. Icy Veins says that about Rogue in general, and Subtlety feels it most.
Sources
- World of Warcraft: Forever Assassination Rogue Guide — Icy Veins, 2026-09-17reputable
- WoW Forever Racial Guide — Icy Veins, 2026-09-28reputable
- WoW Forever - PvP Rank System Explained — Icy Veins, 2026-09-19reputable
- New Enchanting Formulas for World of Warcraft Forever — Warcraft Tavern, 2026-09-17reputable
- WoW Forever Tier List: Every Public Ranking, Compared — wowforever.co, 2026-10-01fan